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“This video. I m gonna show you how you can become a millionaire using nothing nothing but a toy hammer some vaseline and a blender. What you mean you thought video was about tripods all right look. If you want to talk about tripods instead then we ll talk about drivers ok.
Yes. This video is about tripods. It s actually come about because k f. Concept.
Were kind enough to send me two of their tripods to test and review. However i thought that a video about just an individual tripod might not be the most interesting useful video for you guys to watch. So i ve decided instead to turn this into a bit of a kind of a buyer s guide for tripods so i m going to pick the two knf concept tripods against my own personal. Two tripods that i use and also two of the tripods that i ve borrowed from friends of mine.
And this gives us quite a range of not only sizes of tripods. But also the budgets and the use abilities as well so we kind of do a mini review of each of these individual tripods aspects of them that i like aspects that i dislike and also kind of look at what you actually need from a tripod versus. What s overkill and at the end of the day tripods serve. Only one purpose to us.
And that is to hold our camera. Still well unless you get a burglar in the house in which case. It can make quite a good self defense weapon. But for legal reasons.
Let s say that there s only one purpose for a tripod and that s to hold the camera. Still so generally i will use a tripod for when i m shooting these videos. Although in this instance. My tripods are here so i ve had to improvise for this one well.
Hey whatever works. I will also use tripods if i m shooting time lapses. If i m shooting bracketed shots. I don t want the camera to be moving in between shots or if i m doing a long exposure.
That s longer than i could physically hand hold the camera for then a tripod is ideal for that as well so let s see what tripods were dealing with and we ll go over the basic specs of them first so we have the knf concept. Tc. 2335. Which is their new carbon fiber.
Travel tripod. We have the manfrotto be free. Which has been my own personal travel tripod. Now for a couple of years.
We have the hammer travel a compact pro. We have the k and f. Tm 2324. We also have the manfrotto 190.
Which has been my own heavy duty tripod now for a couple of years and we have the monstrous manfrotto. Oh. Five five now in terms of the specs for all of these firstly price. So the cheapest of them all is the k and f.
2324. Coming. In at 56 pounds followed. Closely by the hammer.
Travel. A compact pro. At 59 pounds. Then we have the tc.
20. 335. Which is currently priced around 90 pounds. Then the manfrotto be free.
Which is a hundred and twenty pounds. So the most expensive of the travel tripods then when it comes to the pricing of these two. I m a little bit unsure in all honesty..
It s sad to google them to find out what the current prices were and the prices that i found the old five five is priced at 149 pounds. While the 190 which in theory is a smaller inferior version of the l5. 5 is actually priced at 199 pounds. So i m not entirely sure what s going on.
But basically both of these are up and around somewhere between 150 to 200 pounds now maximum shooting heights that they will all reach we have the 23 35 reaches a hundred and thirty nine centimetres. We have the be free is slightly taller at 144 centimetres. The 23 24 will reach a whole 159 centimetres. The hammer will go up to 165.
The 190 will go slightly higher than that to 171 and the oh five five will get up to 180 centimeters. So between them all there s only about forty centimeters in height difference between this and this at maximum heights now minimum shooting heights is something i ll get onto in a bit more detail later but basically i mean how low can you get the camera to the ground. Because you don t always use tripod for shooting high up. Sometimes you want to use them for shooting loads of the floor.
As well now the good news is that technically all of these tripods can get the cameras to ground level. However the method with which they do it varies from tripod to tripod and some methods. I really like and some methods. I really hate so we re gonna have a look at that in a minute now pack down heights for all of these this can be important particularly with the travel tripods.
If you re going traveling. Sometimes space can be an issue. So you might want the tripod to be as small as possible so for instance. The manfrotto be free when i take this traveling if i m going traveling within the uk.
It s not a problem because i can just attach this to the side of my kit bag. However if i m going abroad. Generally airlines aren t always too pleased about you strapping a big metal tripod to the side of you your backpack you know with the whole size and restrictions on bags and stuff. So you either have to put this in a suitcase.
If you ve got one or in the case of like when i went to germany last year for photokina. I only took my backpack with me i had my camera and tripod and all my clothes and everything in the one backpack. So this needed to go inside that backpack now just close down like this this is too big to fit inside my kit bag. However a lot of the travel.
Tripods actually have the ability to go basically. Inverted and this allows you to make the tripod maximum length. Quite a bit smaller because you re basically hiding the ball head in between the legs. So now close down.
This is only 40. Centimetres long and will easily fit inside my kit bag. The tc. 20 335.
Really impresses me. Because this will fall down to an absolutely minuscule. 35. Centimeters.
So leaves me even more room in my kit bag the other knf concept. The 23 24. Just missed out on me for this one. Because it will technically fall down to about 46 centimeters.
Which would have made it just about small enough to fit in my kit by however. This is where it reaches a bit of a problem because due to the size of this top plate. Here. There s absolutely no way i can fold.
This together without having one of the legs sitting further out than the other two and that unfortunately is just slightly. Too big to actually fit in my kit bag in one piece. If that head was smaller then i could probably get it to fit. So that s a bit of a disappointment.
There now with the hammer. That s about 56 centimetres end to end. Which is as small as it will go now. But it has been modified slightly because the photographer once it s changed into an arca swiss plate.
But the original head you couldn t just change the top plate. You had to change the entire ball head. So they changed it to one of these manfrotto ones..
Which is quite a bit bigger now the legs on this won t fold. All the way over so you can t like double it back on itself like the other three the only solution to this is to take the whole center column out and mount it in upside down. But this presents us with a problem firstly. I can t do it with this anyway.
Because the bigger ball head means that the legs. Just won t close down properly at all it ll be sticking out like this. It s just pointless had it not been adapted up. I could have folded it down to make the tripod much smaller like this now.
This is where we run into a bit of a design flaw. And is also incidentally the same problem. We re going to get to when we look at minimum shooting heights for all these tripods because you can t just take the center column out there s this hook on the bottom. Incidentally this hook is for hanging like a kit bag or a counterweight on to help keep the tripod.
A bit more stable now you could just unscrew the hook. However that still leaves this little wedge plate on the bottom and still stops the center column coming all the way out. But you will notice that this is actually a two piece centre column. So what you have to do is unscrew.
The centre column. Which takes forever you then put the center column oil in upside down. You put the other end back in you screw them back together you ve got to fold. It down tripod.
But then when you wonder then use it you ve got to do the whole unscrewing and point it back together again. It s just a really piss poor design for a center column. It would have been just so much easier. If that bit wasn t on the end and you could just remove the center column completely top alls.
It won t be using that again now the two big man photos you can forget it they are not packing down any smaller than they are there s no fancy folding legs or anything weight is also another factor with these as well obviously you ve got to carry the things around with you if you re staying fairly local. If you re driving to events. And just unloading their weights not that much of a problem. But if you re going walking if you re going traveling.
If you re going abroad. Weight can be a very important factor and this thing weighs about twenty eight hundred and eighty five. Grams so almost three kilos this thing isn t much better at 25 kilos so both of these weigh more than my heaviest camera lens combination that i own now the hammer and the bfree are just on the one and a half kilos are much more manageable weight. The 2324 is slightly lighter at just over one point.
Two kilos. However the 2335 with its carbon fibre construction. Absolutely crushes this at just 879. Grams.
So that means that this is like nearly half the weight of the bfree which i have been using now let s look at minimum shooting heights for all of these so we ve already seen the rather stupid way that hammer have gone about doing this so to get minimum shooting height for this you ve got to hang the centre column in upside down. Now that obviously means your camera s going to be hanging upside down. But hey you can t have everything now. That is my second least favorite of all of these designs purely for the fact that you ve got to split the centre column up every time you try and do it just takes forever.
I much prefer the knf concepts way of doing this because it s the same prey cybil of having the camera hanging upside down. However the beauty of the knf is that you can just take the center column straight out and then put it back in upside down. So much quicker and the 2335 works in exactly the same way so that is a much smoother way of getting low angle shots. If you want now that is my second favorite way of doing it my personal favorite.
I prefer the manfrotto way of doing it with these heavy duty ones because with these the center column is actually. It s got another trick to it so you pull the center column. All the way up and then there s a little quick release pin that you can pull. And it pulls the center column up.
But not completely out and it allows you to set the center column up at a 90 degree angle to the rest of the tripod now this is good for two reasons firstly it means you can flatten the legs completely down. And then have the tripod near and off at ground level. But the other advantage is that then when you ve got the tripod raised up you can essentially do like an overhead hanging shop. Which i ve used this tripod for that a number of times in some of my videos.
Where i ve done the the overhead shots. This is what i ve been using to do it so both this and the oh five five have this same setup. The only thing i don t like about it is i can never find the latch to get it back down again. There we go now that s my favorite way of doing.
It with the big man photos. My least favorite way is the little man throttle. Actually you can only get down to about 30 centimeters..
Because the center column doesn t come out completely the lowest. You can generally get this down to is the height of the center column you can lay the legs out completely flat. And you can get it down to about that at its absolute minimum you can technically get it down to zero. However the way you have to do that is basically use the legs in pack down mode.
And just fold them over on themselves. So it will hang like that however because the legs. Don t lock in place like this they re free to just swing. However they want so if you ve got the tripod on maybe a slippy surface or you ve got a lot of weight hanging.
If you put too much weight on that or there s not enough grip on these feet the legs are just gonna spread apart and your camera s gonna headbutt the floor. Now let s have a look at the as close to a real world stability test. As i could muster up. Now.
I wanted to test the stability of each of these tripods in the real world. But the problem with that is that to get a fair test you d have to use all six tripods in the exact same environment at the exact same time which means. I d have to carry six tripods with me. And i don t want to do that so of devices.
Rather unscientific experiment. Instead now tripods generally tend to show their stability or lack of stability when shooting at the extremes. So when you shoot them at their maximum height with a fairly heavy ish camera on the top that puts it quite a high center of gravity. Then that s okay if you re shooting in calm conditions.
Because the camera will eventually settle down. But if you re shooting in quite windy conditions that winds then going to blow that weight around and you re going to get vibrations and blurring in your images. So that s what i m gonna do i m gonna have each tripod set up at the highest maximum point with the camera on the top and i m gonna take a picture of that bug box ant farm thing on the wall that s actually what it s called as well it s in the brochure. So i m gonna take the shot with a slow ish shutter speed.
I m gonna be down about f. 22. And probably about a fifth of a second exposure now the problem. I ve got is like i said a setup like this yeah it ll bob around a little bit.
But even the lightest tripods eventually will settle down in completely calm conditions like indoors. You want sunshine in england. It pause with rain you want gale force winds and horrible weather moving in light breeze and sunshine. So i m gonna have to make my own gale force wind.
So meet that s on a dough maker 9000 well it s actually called the stir flow fan but i think tornado maker sounds even better so now what i m gonna do is i m going to take an exposure of the wall. But i m going to be blowing the camera with this he of fan and hopefully not looking india in the process. So shot set up ten second timer to get rid of the vibrations that i m about to put back into it so. Here s what this shot would look like with no wind at all and here.
It is with the fan. So even the 0 5. 5. The biggest row of the lot has a little bit of blurriness in there let s try the 190 next so none of the tripods produced a completely blur free shot.
However. The results were actually really surprising to me. I honestly thought that the two heavy duty manfrotto swin by a country mile and yet actually it seems that the knf 2324 and the hammer pro actually produced a slightly sharper result than the mann fra toes. Now unsurprisingly the 23 35.
Did produce the most blur with this being not only the lightest tripod by far. But also having a four stage leg rather than a three or a two however. It is worth noting that this tripod does actually have a small hook underneath the center column for you to be able to counterweight. It the same way as the hammer.
However only did 2335 and the hammer had these hooks. So i didn t use them for any of the tests now it is worth bearing in mind. This is quite an extreme scenario. This was a fifth of a second shutter speed at 75 mil with an intentionally front heavy settle in the real world for most people.
I imagine that they ll either be using faster shutter speeds with these longer focal lengths or they will be shooting at much wider angles. That aren t going to show the blurring quite as much so when you re picking a tripod. It s very important to get one that s going to obviously keep your camera stable however how easy it is to keep your camera stable depends on what you re using it with and where you re using it so if you re using a fairly average sized. You know camera setup with a fairly reasonable focal length.
Then it s gonna take a lot of instability and a lot of vibrations to show any real kind of degrading to your images. And if you re shooting indoors. Where there s no wind blowing the tripod round yes you might get a little bit of shake when you pushing buttons on the camera..
But when the cameras left to its own devices once everything settled down. You re not going to see anything if you re using very heavy loaded cameras. If you re using very long focal lengths and you re shooting in very windy conditions. Then yes.
Heavy duty stuff is there for that and also using weight limit as a mesh of stability isn t always the case. Because manufacturers will have different ways of interpreting what weight limit they re stating for example with all of these i mean the the the hammer. I couldn t actually find a stated weight limit. Anyway.
The weight limit of the manfrotto be free mantra. So say is four kilos to put that into perspective by the way my a 7 3. With a 100 to 400 mill g. Master lens weighs just over 2 kilos.
So according to mantra. So this will be able to hold almost two of those not a problem. The one ninety. Which is a much more heavy duty tripod is rated at seven kilos weight limit.
So nearly double this and the oh five five which is an even heavier duty version of the one ninety is rated at ninety lows. Now by comparison the knf concepts. The twenty three twenty four is the second lightest of all of these tripods and yet k and f. State.
That this has a maximum weight limit of ten kilos and the twenty three twenty five which is by far the lightest of all of these tripods has a rated weight limit of twelve kilos and no you are not going crazy. There is absolutely no way on this blue earth that this little thing will hold like thirty percent more weight than this behemoth. Where it becomes an issue is how they re measuring the weights. I suspect k and f concept.
Are actually stating the maximum load limit that these tripods can take before they will just buckle and break and destroy themselves. Whereas man throws. Wording is safety max limits so they re saying probably. What the ball heads can hold before it s going to start to make the things unstable.
But i do believe that for most people you know using a fairly average sized camera in fairly reasonable conditions light winds etc. The smaller cheaper tripods will still do a perfectly good job. And you won t notice the difference of all these tripods for me the oh five five is overkill. I don t need a tripod that s that big and heavy because i m not using gear for it the 190 will hold my 100 to 400.
Extremely. Still. But i rarely do that anyway. The only time i ever really use this is for when i m doing the overhead hanging shots and that s where i need that extra stability the 2324 for the cheapest of all of these shreds has impressed me a lot.
I think this will suit. The average shooter. Perfectly well the hammer overall. The good tripod and for the money as well.
But like i said. The only thing that bugs the the living hell at me is this center column design. Really lets it down the manfrotto be free has served me very very well for a number of years as a travel tripod. It does a fantastic job.
However. I think it s now getting replaced with this no this might not be as stable as the be free at maximum shooting heights. But then i m not using this a maximum shooting height so i rarely ever do. But the smaller pack down size and the near half the weight for me just makes this the absolute perfect travel.
Tripod. Obviously. There are plenty of other options for you to lock out and consider as well there are some that are even cheaper than these there are some that are more expensive than these. But it all comes down to personal preference and remembering at the end of the day you don t always need the most expensive flashy tripod.
If you re not putting it into the most extreme circumstances with the extremely heavy gear. But that s it for this video. What are your thoughts and opinions on this what tripod have you got and how do you find it leave your thoughts and comments in the box down below thank you so much for stopping by and hopefully. I will see you in the next video you ” .
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